Wednesday, 22 August 2012
Locally listed buildings
One of the practices of some local planning authorities that has always irritated me is the compilation of local lists of buildings which the authority considers are of architectural or historic interest, or which they regard as ‘landmark’ buildings.
The reason for my irritation is that we have a well-established statutory system in this country for the formal listing of buildings of architectural or historic interest on a national basis. These are buildings which are objectively assessed by English Heritage as being of architectural or historic interest and which are then included by the Department of Culture Media and Sport (DCMS) on the statutory list under the Planning (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas) Act 1990. Buildings which are not included in the statutory list are, by definition, not of listable quality, and if anyone thinks they are, there are procedures available for having them listed, if DCMS on the recommendation of English Heritage agrees that they should after all be included in the statutory list. An LPA can seek the ‘spot listing’ of a building by DCMS, and if it is considered to be of listable quality it will subsequently be added to the statutory list; if not, then it won’t.
Where unlisted buildings which in themselves are not of listable quality form a group which the LPA considers is worthy of protection, they have the power to designate a Conservation Area under the same Act. In many cases, conservation areas include both listed and unlisted buildings. The protection given to unlisted buildings in a conservation area is less than that afforded to buildings on the statutory list, but their demolition is at least prevented without prior consent.
Thus there is no justification for LPAs to compile their own entirely unofficial lists of ‘locally listed’ buildings. Such a list has no statutory effect and does not affect the legal status of that building in any way. Inclusion of a building in a ‘local list’ does not afford it any formal legal protection. At most, the fact that a building is included in a ‘local list’ of ‘landmark’ buildings, or however they are described, may be a material consideration in the determination by the LPA of any planning application relating to development affecting that building, but that is as far as it goes.
The full range of Permitted Development rights will continue to apply to a ‘locally listed’ building, unless it is in a conservation area – in which case the same slightly reduced PD rights as apply to other unlisted buildings in a conservation area will continue to apply to the ‘locally listed’ buildings within that area. If the LPA wishes to restrict or remove PD rights, they can do so only by making an Article 4 Direction applying to a specific building or buildings or to a specified area within the district.
Thus the existing protection of the statutory system of listed buildings and conservation areas is more than adequate to ensure the protection and preservation of buildings worthy of such protection, and the extra-statutory designation by LPAs of ‘locally listed’ buildings is entirely unnecessary, and should be discouraged.
Bearing in mind the lack of formal protection given to ‘locally listed’ buildings, a determined developer can afford to take a robust approach in these cases, and may well be able to so arrange matters as to entirely circumvent the purported protection which the LPA has sought to give to ‘locally listed’ buildings. If it is not in a conservation area, demolishing the building in question before putting forward a planning application for the redevelopment of the site may well be an attractive proposition. In fact, the ‘local listing’ of such a building might well encourage such an approach, in order to avoid the sort of arguments that might arise over its demolition and replacement if the building were to be left in place while the redevelopment proposals are under consideration.
So ‘local listing’ of buildings might in practice prove to be counter-productive from the LPA’s point a view. This is something which Bristol City Council may care to ponder, as the latest LPA to contemplate the possibility of ‘local listing’.
© MARTIN H GOODALL
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Martin
ReplyDeleteWhat you say is quite correct but I have always thought it strange that the definition of Heritage Asset (firstly in Annex 2 to PPS5 and more recently in the Glossary to the NPPF) includes "designated heritage assest and assets identified by the local planning authority (including local listing)".
David Merson
Is your concern over demolition overstated in the sense that planning permission would be required or is all demolition permitted development?
ReplyDeleteHear, hear! There is way too much saved or protected just because it is old. So what, take a photo / do a survey and move on. We are restricted in our land and protect far too much. A maximum of five conservation areas per district and no more than 100 listed buildings - that would sort the wheat from the chaff. #Superplanner71 Dr Anton Lang MRTPI
ReplyDeleteAs an LPA policy planner I agree with the points that we should only protect buildings/areas that meet the criteria for listed buildings and conservation areas. Many of our current historic buildings were built to replace older buildings which had outlived their usefulness. Its really a matter of ensuring theat what comes in its place is special.
ReplyDeleteIn my experiance its not so much the planners who cause the problem as the conservation lobby who conflate 'old' with 'historically significant'. The public and Members have 'pet' buildings which they like or (more often) don't want to have the development which will replace the demolished building near them.
As for limiting the number of listed buildings and conservation areas I hope it wasn't a serious suggestion!
In answer to Anonymous (23 August) - Demolition in itself is permitted development under Part 31 (to the extent that it is not excluded altogether from the definition of development by ministerial direction). However, the scenario I had in mind was an application to redevelop a site which would involve the demolition of a locally listed building (not being in a conservation area) which is still standing at the time the application is made. A refusal is very likely in such circumstances . The obvious temptation is for the developer to demolish the locally listed building (perfectly lawfully), and then to apply for planning permission for the proposed new development.
ReplyDeleteDear Martin, I would just like to thank you for such an interesting blog.
DeleteIam in a position of deliberation as to purchase a property that is not in a conservation area but is localy listed for its character. The house in my opinion is beautiful however it is not practical for modern living, therefore would need extending and modernising in a way that would compliment the building interns of look and materials. My fear ofcorse is purchasing the property and then being refused planning.
What would you suggest I do?
In answer to Hassan Hassan (17/02/14), locally listed buildings, whilst they do not have any formal protection, are nevertheless recognised by the NPPF as ‘heritage assets’. There is therefore likely to be some resistance on the part of the local planning authority to development that would involve the demolition of a locally listed building, and the refusal of planning permission might very well be upheld on appeal. My advice would be to obtain detailed expert advice on this issue before proceeding further.
ReplyDeleteWhat a ridiculous comment from Anton Lang, or maybe it was just tongue-in-cheek. Obviously there are some local authority areas where you would struggle to find half a dozen decent buildings, and others where there are thousands. I share the frustration about introducing bureaucracy and shades of grey where there used to be clarity, but notwithstanding this blog, local lists and undesignated heritage assets do have official blessing via the NPPF and the English Heritage / Historic England quango and via those in local plans and neighbourhood plans. And we are supposed to protect the settings of locally listed buildings too... Despite my long experience in heritage matters, I remain nonplussed about the effectiveness of local lists, and neither the NPPF or Historic England guidance really satisfy my concerns. Wales seems to set far less store by them.
ReplyDeleteI happen to agree with Dr Lang and did not find his comment in the least bit ridiculous. However, under the NPPF, locally listed buildings are treated as ‘heritage assets’ and, whilst not enjoying any statutory protection, their proximity to the proposed development may be treated as a material consideration to the extent indicated by the NPPF.
ReplyDeleteHave these rules changed or is it still possible to demolish a locally listed building legally (not in a conservation area and not the subject of an article 4 direction)? Does the Town and Country Planning (General Permitted Development) (England) Order 2015 mean it is now a requirement to notify the local authority prior to demolition? Thank you
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ReplyDeleteLocally listed buildings (other than those in a conservation area) have a somewhat ambivalent status. They do not enjoy statutory protection; thus their demolition, except in a conservation area, is permitted development under Part 11 of the Second Schedule of the GPDO. (Such demolition, unless it is within a conservation area, is not relevant demolition for the purposes of section 196D of the principal Act). Yet locally listed buildings are treated as “heritage assets” where a planning application is made that might affect them - see NPPF, footnote 9 to paragraph 14, and paragraphs 128ff (and specifically para 135ff in relation to “non-designated heritage assets”).
Turning to the second part of the question raised, demolition under Part 11 is subject to the conditions in paragraph B2 , including a requirement to make a prior approval application to the LPA, except in cases of urgency (and even in this case the developer must, as soon as reasonably practicable, give the LPA a written justification of the demolition).
[I am not aware of any change to the rules since 2015, but the usual disclaimer applies as it does to the entire contents of this blog, and so these remarks must not be relied upon in any way as legal advice.]
Hi Martin. I find your blog very informative. We are the owners of a site which includes a defunct water mill. To my knowledge this was built in 1789. There is a house attached to it which we live in. On purchasing the buildings, which include a stable block, some bull pens and a breeze block milking parlour we were not aware of any kind of listing or conservation orders on these buildings. We developed the mill building and the milking parlour into a teaching centre for disadvantaged groups and had planning permission to convert the milking parlour into a course room, office and dining facility. This was 25 years ago.
ReplyDeleteWe have just learned, from seeking permission to convert the milking parlour into holiday lets, that the site is an ' undesignsted heritage site. I have no idea what this means and as the owner of the site have never been appraised of this at any time other than now. Is this legal or lawful or even possible? Can you enlighten me please. I do understand from your blog that this is not as restrictive as listing the buildings, but we have made many alterations to the mill building and wonder if we will now have to reinstate the original fixtures e.g doors and windows. I do hope you can help
In answer to Jennie Bond, the concept of “undesignated heritage assets” has evolved almost by stealth over a number of years. It is, in effect, an attempt by local planning authorities to extend some form of protection to buildings and other objects which are not covered by an official designation such as (among others) listing as a building of architectural or historic interest under section 1 of the Planning (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas) Act 1990.
ReplyDeleteBuildings that have not been placed on the statutory list under the Listed Buildings Act do not have any special protection, beyond the ordinary development management regime, which is where the concept of “undesignated heritage assets” comes in. For a number of years, quite a few LPAs have identified “locally listed” buildings, which they think ought to have some measure of protection, even though they are not listed buildings under section 1 of the Listed Buildings Act.
Compilation of lists or records of such buildings is entirely informal, and does not involve any set procedure (which is one aspect of the practice that makes the concept of “undesignated heritage assets” rather unsatisfactory). Development management policies in relation to such identified ‘assets’ will be found in Local Plans and/or in supplementary planning guidance published by these LPAs.
Despite the lack of legislation on this issue, the government does recognise the concept of “undesignated heritage assets”. So, for example, the NPPF contains numerous references, some of which relate specifically to designated heritage assets (defined in the Glossary in Annex 2 as “: A World Heritage Site, Scheduled Monument, Listed Building, Protected Wreck Site, Registered Park and Garden, Registered Battlefield or Conservation Area designated under the relevant legislation”) but there are also numerous references to “heritage assets” generally, and the Glossary makes it clear that the term “heritage assets” includes not only officially designated assets, but also assets identified by the local planning authority (including local listing).
Thus, whilst listed building consent is not required for alterations to an “undesignated heritage asset”, nor are permitted development rights withdrawn (unless an Article 4 Direction has been made, or they are withdrawn by a condition attached to a planning permission), an application for development requiring planning permission will be processed and determined in accordance with the policies and practices that the council has adopted in relation to “undesignated heritage assets” (backed up by the advice in the NPPF).
"Thus the existing protection of the statutory system of listed buildings and conservation areas is more than adequate to ensure the protection and preservation of buildings worthy of such protection, and the extra-statutory designation by LPAs of ‘locally listed’ buildings is entirely unnecessary, and should be discouraged."
ReplyDeleteWell, that completely misses the point I'm afraid - listing and conservation areas protect buildings *worthy of listing or inclusion (as a group) in a conservation area* (though I'm aware of a couple of examples of single-property CAs), but it does not provide protection for buildings which, while they may not meet the test of *national* importance which would justify listing, are still of historic or architectural importance at a regional or local level and that importance should be a factor in making decisions where a planning application affects them.
The LPA that currently employs me has had a list of "sensitive buildings" that dates back to the 1970s. Alas, the basis on which it was compiled is now lost in the mists of time.
Dear Martin,
ReplyDeleteVery interesting subject,
Just a quick question, a office building that is locally listed, not in a conversation area, no article 4 directive.
Can it be converted into residential using prior approval? (b1 to c3) and by pass a full planning application, were no external alterations are proposed.
Regards
Shaz
As I have explained, “local listing” is a material consideration in the determination of a planning application (and the NPPF recognises locally listed buildings as ‘heritage assets’). However, local listing gives a building no statutory protection as such.
DeleteThe prohibitions on the residential conversion of an office building under Class O are confined to a site being or forming part of a safety hazard area or military explosives storage area, to the building being a listed building or being within the curtilage of a listed building (i.e. a building on the statutory list, but not a ‘locally listed’ building), or to the site being or containing a scheduled monument.
Subject to all the other qualifying criteria and limitations being met, residential conversion of a ‘locally listed’ building is permitted by Class O, but this permission is confined solely to the change of use of the building (including purely internal conversion works, which by virtue of section 55(2)(a) are not in themselves development). Any alterations or extensions affecting the external appearance of the building will require full planning permission, and the status of the building as a heritage asset could then be relevant in that context.
[Note that when determining a prior approval application, the NPPF is to be taken into account only if and to the extent that it is relevant to the matters actually requiring prior approval, i.e. transport and highways impacts of the development, contamination risks on the site; flooding risks on the site and impacts of noise from nearby commercial premises. The NPPF is therefore of no relevance in the case of Class O in relation to the building being a ‘locally listed’ building.]
This makes interesting reading I am still confused so if I buy a Property which is locally listed that means it has no statutory protection the house i am buying used to be a former vicarage linked to the church which is a listed building there was three vicarages two of which have been demolished.
ReplyDeleteI have a number of questions
1. As the other two vicarages which were also locally listed have been demolished would I have a chance of success on an application to delist? How would I go about making application to delist?
2. As the property is locally listed and not in a conservation area it still retains PD rights if I changed the windows would that be possible with out planning? Secondly if I did it could the Council enforce if as you say there is no statutory protection?
I have read your article and i am slightly confused so if i have read correctly a locally listed building has no statutory protection so does that mean the LPA have no powers to enforce.
ReplyDeleteI am purchasing a property which is locally listed it is not in a conservation area and has no removal of condition 4 PD rights.
I have a few questions
1. As this house was a former vicarage linked to a listed church what are the chances of getting it de listed and would that be application through LPA? Can it be appealed?
2.There was two other vicarages linked to the church which have both been demolished do we have argument of parity?
The two queries above are remarkably similar, so I will answer them together.
DeleteBefore dealing with the two questions raised, there is a possible problem arising from the listing of the church (assuming this was formally listed under the Act, and not simply ‘locally listed’). Might this former vicarage be said to be (or to have been at the time of listing) within the curtilage of the listed building? If so, it would itself be subject to statutory listing.
On the basis of the stated facts, I am unable to determine whether the former vicarage might or might not be ‘curtilage listed’, although one thought that occurs to me is that the vicarage is (and has probably always been) located on a separate planning unit in use within Use Class C3, whereas the church itself is probably located on a separate planning unit, which is or was used within Use Class D1. My view would be strengthened if (as may well be the case), there is a wall, fence or other enclosure separating the vicarage from the church. [See Dyer v Dorset and also now Burford.]
Assuming, however, that the vicarage is not ‘curtilage listed’ by reason of its spatial and any (former) functional relationship with the listed church, then I would answer the two questions as follows:
1. If the vicarage is only ‘locally listed’, it cannot be ‘de-listed’ in a formal sense, although the LPA might or might not be persuaded to remove it from their local list. If simple demolition is proposed (separate from any other development) then this would be PD under Part 11, subject to a prior approval application. However, the LPA’s role in dealing with such an application is confined to requiring details of the method of demolition, site clearance, etc.
If, however, the proposed demolition is coupled with redevelopment of the site, then the ‘loss’ of this locally listed building might well be a material consideration in the determination of such a planning application.
2. As a single private dwelling, the former vicarage (which is only ‘locally listed’) would enjoy all the usual permitted development rights under Part 1 of the Second Schedule to the GPDO, assuming no Article 4 Direction has been made that would affect this property, and assuming that PD rights have not been removed at any time by a preclusive condition in a planning permission.